The Little boys room Kirkstall Road

Leodian · Post by **Leodian** » Sat 20 Aug, 2011 2:47 pm

It is fascinating seeing the details on old maps such as that Phill has given above. I would guess that LP may be Lamp Post and FH may be Fire Hydrant but does anyone know what MH and ES are?

jim · Post by **jim** » Sat 20 Aug, 2011 4:33 pm

Googling "ordnance survey abbreviations" gives ES as "end of straight (railway)" and for MH "malthouse" or "manhole". Presumably those on the map reproduced refer to tramway in the first instance, and manhole in the latter - they would have to be dolls house sized malthouses! EDIT Looking again at the map, I suspect that ES in this case might refer to something else not mentioned in the lists of abbreviations.

jim · Post by **jim** » Sat 20 Aug, 2011 4:43 pm

As a wild guess, how about "electrical standards" for tramway overhead wire poles?

Leodian · Post by **Leodian** » Sat 20 Aug, 2011 8:02 pm

Thanks Jim. I had wondered if ES could be Entry Sewer (as an entry into a sewer) but Electrical Standards for trams does at least seem more likely I would guess.

BLAKEY · Post by **BLAKEY** » Sat 20 Aug, 2011 8:28 pm

mhoulden wrote: Were there some more public loos on the side of the old Glenroyal cinema/Tesco on the corner of New Road Side and Clarence Drive? There was indeed such a facility.

BLAKEY · Post by **BLAKEY** » Sat 20 Aug, 2011 8:32 pm

Phill_dvsn wrote: Hi Blakey, If you look at the map above you see the library was next to the Police station, the small building (now in ruins) joined on to the library. I'm not sure if it was a separate building, or part of the library itself. Thanks for that Phill, and I must admit to being just amazed at how the memory falters - I seem to recall that the Labrador was "persuaded" into a doorway along the side of the complex and then I thought I turned half right to a little counter - but it was in 1957/8 after all.

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Sat 20 Aug, 2011 10:53 pm

BLAKEY wrote: Phill_dvsn wrote: Hi Blakey, If you look at the map above you see the library was next to the Police station, the small building (now in ruins) joined on to the library. I'm not sure if it was a separate building, or part of the library itself. Thanks for that Phill, and I must admit to being just amazed at how the memory falters - I seem to recall that the Labrador was "persuaded" into a doorway along the side of the complex and then I thought I turned half right to a little counter - but it was in 1957/8 after all. Just looking at the older maps Blakey, you may well recall correctly here. The police station seems to have moved (or expanded) into the small building next to the library on the 1955 map.Perhaps there was a general run down of this Police station before it closed, the station relocating to the small building as a mere information desk/enquiries?The 1967 map seems to suggest that too, It also solves the puzzle of what the old metal green door was that still survives herehttp://tinyurl.com/3kqavkfThe green paint looking right for an electricity sub station.

Leodian · Post by **Leodian** » Sat 20 Aug, 2011 11:03 pm

I see Phill that the urinal is now referred to as a Lav in the 1955 map. Perhaps urinal was considered too descriptive!

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Sat 20 Aug, 2011 11:30 pm

Leodian wrote: I see Phill that the urinal is now referred to as a Lav in the 1955 map. Perhaps urinal was considered too descriptive! Yes indeed, you may find my last post in the S.L research reference topic useful too http://www.secretleeds.co.uk/forum/Mess ... e=0&#69661

BLAKEY · Post by **BLAKEY** » Sun 21 Aug, 2011 10:58 am

Phill_dvsn wrote: Just looking at the older maps Blakey, you may well recall correctly here. The police station seems to have moved (or expanded) into the small building next to the library on the 1955 map.The green paint looking right for an electricity sub station. Thanks Phill, that's reassuring. While I am of course always happy and appreciative to have old inaccurate memories corrected, I really did have a strong impression of the Police Station entrance being on the straight Abbey Road face of the complex - roughly where the present bus stop is - although the main road was much narrower then and the area where the Sports Centre now stands was quite "original" and the present development I suppose not even envisaged.