PUDSEY AIR VENT

Phill_dvsn · Post by **Phill_dvsn** » Tue 01 Jun, 2010 5:21 pm

chameleon wrote: Slightly off-topic - Anyone seeen Phill lately, or is he here - Guatemalin sink-hole. At least we don't get these here! Too late Chameleon. I've alrady been down there lol http://www.flickr.com/photos/phill_dvsn/4648457086/

Post by **chameleon** » Tue 01 Jun, 2010 5:22 pm

Phill_dvsn wrote: chameleon wrote: Slightly off-topic - Anyone seeen Phill lately, or is he here - Guatemalin sink-hole. At least we don't get these here! Too late Chameleon. I've alrady been down there lol http://www.flickr.com/photos/phill_dvsn/4648457086/ Wow, someone's on the ball today then - up early too

Si · Post by Si » Tue 01 Jun, 2010 5:40 pm

jim wrote: Si, coal and clay level, and fourth air shaft on 1933/8 map are in field 508 of the Godfrey map. The clay pits are in fields 433 and 437. The railway I spoke of runs in a practically straight line from 433 through 438 to the small buildings at the north end of 474.The air shaft in 512 is the one you point out, and I failed to notice that the map gives shafts rather than shaft in 469. There are no buildings shown in this field, or reference to the coal pit, but interestingly a Bench Mark, specifically one "likely to remain stable in an area generally liable to subsidence" is shown in the wall close to the "air shaft"with a height of 626.61. I must confess I didn't look at Godfrey in the excitement of finding an embarrassment of shafts in the 1933/8 map! All completely different from what I found, then!

jim · Post by **jim** » Tue 01 Jun, 2010 6:21 pm

Not quite, Si. The shaft in 512 is exactly the same! To be serious for a moment, it just shows what thirty years and a difference of map scale can throw up ( oh dear, it's H, R, and Y. time again ) and that can only increase the information available to us. It seems that extractive industry in this area is more widespread than we knew,

Si · Post by Si » Wed 02 Jun, 2010 9:57 am

Morning, Jim.Here's the workings in field 433 of which you speak, visible on Google Earth. To get your bearings, the bottom corner of field 473 can be seen top right. The boundary between 433 and 432 has been scrubbed out. The 'ghost' of the small rectangular enclosure can be seen, but I can't see the rail bed heading NNE.The buildings in the top end of field 474 no longer exist.

jim · Post by **jim** » Wed 02 Jun, 2010 10:32 am

Morning Si. It's likely that the railway was two foot gauge or so, laid directly on the land, and ephemeral, explaining the lack of remains. In view of the land form it was probably winch-worked, from a small building immediately south of the twin small buildings shown at the top of field 474 in Godfrey and east of the corner of 508. The line ran to the immediate west of the Trig. point in 474 and terminated down the east side of the clay pits.

Si · Post by Si » Wed 02 Jun, 2010 10:35 am

Does the miniscule building in the top corner of field 438 have owt to do with it, do you think?And what do you think of the access track for the coal pit? (Field 513a) Why doesn't it follow a straight line?

jim · Post by **jim** » Wed 02 Jun, 2010 10:45 am

Search me Si ( or field 438! ), but comparing maps the mini-building seems too far east to be relevant.The coal and clay level and air shaft near the west side of 508 look interesting too, but I believe they will have been lost to more recent building. The main point is that between them these sites should account for the rash of air vents in this area.

jim · Post by **jim** » Wed 02 Jun, 2010 10:48 am

New thought on 513a.-------miners looking for H, R, and Y?

Si · Post by Si » Wed 02 Jun, 2010 11:43 am

"Nov. 29th. Br. John Tordoff gat very much hurt yesterday in a coal-pit, and it was a great wonder to every one that knew it that (he) was not kill'd on the spot, because a stone of more than a pack weight fell from the top of the pit more than 20 yeards deep, where he was in the bottom, and it fell upon him."Found this passage in a history of (nearby) Fulneck, from 1775. I don't think it's our pit, but shows coal mining was going on in the area at an earlier date, and presumably run by the Moravian 'brothers' of Fulneck. "Very much hurt?" I bet he was! Classic example of Yorkshire understatement.