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Posted: Tue 27 Mar, 2012 8:40 pm
by dERvXeroX
HA!Building began on Fenton Street in 1842. The name was taken from Isabella Fenton, friend of Henrietta Strickland, who had bought land in 1840. A house she had built in 1855 became the Fenton public house.http://www.leodis.org/display.aspx?reso ... 29_3458803

Posted: Tue 27 Mar, 2012 8:40 pm
by liits
uncle mick wrote: dERvXeroX wrote: http://www.leodis.net/display.aspx?reso ... SPLAY=FULL Looking at the info in the photo it is run by the Baxters in 1966 and later still according to Liits.So the Baxter family where there from at least 1891 to 1966. I think they should change the name to Baxters      I think Leodis is a bit wide of the mark again.Herbert Henry Baxter died in the second quarter of 1956. The license transferred to his widow, Doris, on the 18th May 1956. She only held it until 7th of December, possibly while the tenancy was sold [this was before it was a managed house]. The subsequent licensee, Leonard Smith, was also a tenant. The first manager wasn't until 1961.

Posted: Tue 27 Mar, 2012 9:40 pm
by dERvXeroX
Just found this:"At present I am researching for an article about a lady from Leeds called Mary Yale. Mary was born in 1800, the daughter of William and Isabella Fenton, William being a Yorkshire millionaire. Mary is referred throughout her life as variously an idiot, an imbecile or a person of unsound mind. Throughout her 86 years Mary lived with many different members of her family and not in an asylum. This was a privelege reserved only for the rich and famous. So who was Mary Yale? I would like to find out more so if you can help me contact me at my email address."http://ellisfamilyhistory.blogspot.co.uk/

Posted: Tue 27 Mar, 2012 10:28 pm
by String o' beads

Posted: Wed 28 Mar, 2012 1:01 am
by dERvXeroX
Geordie-exile wrote: Lots about Mary Yale here:http://theoldmeadows.co.uk/in_lunacy.html The only problem is this article says Isobella Fenton died in 1854, a year before she built the Fenton.

Posted: Wed 28 Mar, 2012 4:50 pm
by ArmleyLass47
Hi I do ancestry for myself and often help others, this is what I found out about Mary.She was born 30th December 1799 but wasnt christened until 27th January 1800 at St Peters, Leeds. Parents were William Fenton and Mother Isabella Pearson. They were living at Mill Hill at the time.She was married on 13th November 1819 at Christ Church, Newgate, London to a Richard Yale.Having done ancestry for about 5 years now I would just put a warning on the fact she was called a imbecile or something wrong with her. The poor woman could possibly be suffering from depression, she could have had a child and lost it and would be suffering from post natal depression, she might have been highly strung as they call it. She could have been as we used to call people 'backward'. She wasnt violent by the sounds of it otherwise she would have been put away. Sometimes shy people were said to be abnormal. This happened especially if you were a woman as no one had any idea of these small illnesses which we would now give a few tablets to. Poor woman. She cant have been that bad if she lived til she was 86. regards

Posted: Wed 28 Mar, 2012 7:17 pm
by book
As a teenager I used the Fenton and other pubs in the vicinity. IMO one of the first Indian restaurants and takeaways in that part of Leeds was just round the corner, Chakwals. We used it a lot, it as very basic stuff in those days, curry with Chapati. I can't recall another opening in the Hyde Park area before Chakwals.

Posted: Wed 28 Mar, 2012 7:48 pm
by String o' beads
dERvXeroX wrote: HA!Building began on Fenton Street in 1842. The name was taken from Isabella Fenton, friend of Henrietta Strickland, who had bought land in 1840. A house she had built in 1855 became the Fenton public house.http://www.leodis.org/display.aspx?reso ... 29_3458803 dERvXeroX wrote: Geordie-exile wrote: Lots about Mary Yale here:http://theoldmeadows.co.uk/in_lunacy.html The only problem is this article says Isobella Fenton died in 1854, a year before she built the Fenton. I read the first quote to mean that Henrietta Strickland was the 'she' in 'house she had built', not Isabella. The only connection with Isabella was that the street was named after her, because she was a friend of the lady who bought the land and had the houses built. If you read it that way, then it's not inconsistent that Isabella died in 1854.

Posted: Wed 28 Mar, 2012 7:54 pm
by liits
DERvXeroX, if you're still reading this, dorp me an email [email protected].

Posted: Thu 29 Mar, 2012 8:20 pm
by String o' beads
liits wrote: DERvXeroX, if you're still reading this, dorp me an email [email protected]. Aww, can't we all know the secret?