House in the 'Holbeck Triangle'

thc · Post by **thc** » Sun 16 Mar, 2008 4:59 pm

My mother-in-law once spoke of a house bounded by the railway lines of the 'Holbeck Triangle'--a relative had lived there and it could be accessed by walking to the end of the platforms of Wellington St. station [sounds a bit dangerous!!].I was told that matthew Murray once lived there.Does anyone know of this??

grumpytramp · Post by **grumpytramp** » Sun 16 Mar, 2008 5:30 pm

I presume that you are referring to the triangle enclosed by railways to the imedediate south west of Leeds Station (centred about Grid Reference SE292329)Matthew Murray home was indeed located here, and accessed from Water Lane. Built in 1804 and called Holbeck Lodge:http://www.leodis.net/display.aspx?reso ... SPLAY=FULL [HOLBECK LODGE - you can make out two sides of the railway triangle in the background]http://www.leodis.net/display.aspx?reso ... 0_15420168 [WATER LANE & ENTRENCE]It is clearly maked on the 1854 OS plan (see http://www.old-maps.co.uk/IndexMapPage2.aspx and search on the coords 429100 433000 and zoom in)It was also home to Horatio Wood, a solictor who was one of the 19 Chartist candidates who swept the board at elections in 1842 for Leeds Improvement Commissioners.

The Parksider · Post by **The Parksider** » Sun 16 Mar, 2008 5:52 pm

grumpytramp wrote: I presume that you are referring to the triangle enclosed by railways to the imedediate south west of Leeds Station (centred about Grid Reference SE292329)Matthew Murray home was indeed located here, and accessed from Water Lane. Built in 1804 and called Holbeck Lodge:http://www.leodis.net/display.aspx?reso ... SPLAY=FULL [HOLBECK LODGE - you can make out two sides of the railway triangle in the background]http://www.leodis.net/display.aspx?reso ... 0_15420168 [WATER LANE & ENTRENCE]It is clearly maked on the 1854 OS plan (see http://www.old-maps.co.uk/IndexMapPage2.aspx and search on the coords 429100 433000 and zoom in)It was also home to Horatio Wood, a solictor who was one of the 19 Chartist candidates who swept the board at elections in 1842 for Leeds Improvement Commissioners. A very off place to have a house it is on Godfrey's maps.It shows no trace today on the ground.I think it was the first house to be centrally heatedI just don't see such luminaries living there permanently/regularly!

Bramley4woods · Post by **Bramley4woods** » Sun 16 Mar, 2008 10:06 pm

The Parksider wrote: grumpytramp wrote: I presume that you are referring to the triangle enclosed by railways to the imedediate south west of Leeds Station (centred about Grid Reference SE292329)Matthew Murray home was indeed located here, and accessed from Water Lane. Built in 1804 and called Holbeck Lodge:http://www.leodis.net/display.aspx?reso ... SPLAY=FULL [HOLBECK LODGE - you can make out two sides of the railway triangle in the background]http://www.leodis.net/display.aspx?reso ... 0_15420168 [WATER LANE & ENTRENCE]It is clearly maked on the 1854 OS plan (see http://www.old-maps.co.uk/IndexMapPage2.aspx and search on the coords 429100 433000 and zoom in)It was also home to Horatio Wood, a solictor who was one of the 19 Chartist candidates who swept the board at elections in 1842 for Leeds Improvement Commissioners. A very off place to have a house it is on Godfrey's maps.It shows no trace today on the ground.I think it was the first house to be centrally heatedI just don't see such luminaries living there permanently/regularly! Colloquially it's name got changed to "Steam Hall" because it had central heating with steam pipes.The vacant plot was where the great and the good were threatening to plant the "Brick Man" statue. Noticing it was built in 1802, I wonder if Mathew pulled a few strings to contrive to avoid his house getting demolished when the railways came through nearly 30 years later ??

simonm · Post by **simonm** » Mon 17 Mar, 2008 12:58 pm

We used to laik there as kids, buggering about on the railway viaducts etc. I distinctly remember there used to be a massive arch, strengthened by corrugated iorn sheting that led into the old Doncaster monkbridge forge. I went doen there t'other week to take look round, but the arch has been well and truley filled up. I wonder if the other side hes been bricked up properly? I'll have to take another wander..

spongebob · Post by **spongebob** » Wed 19 Mar, 2008 12:25 am

The house gets a few mentions on Leodis but I don't know if there are any definite photo's. When I was working at exhaust discounts on Water lane(prior to closure and redevelopment in late 2001) in the courtyard behind is a very old cottage that was rumoured to be part of Matthew Murrays workshops. That bit still stands and has been revamped along with the other buildings around the courtyard. Our bit was described as a lean to (which was generous to say the least) and was duly demolished.The tunnel into Monk Bridge is bricked up but still visible on the Whitehall road side of the railway lines approaching Leeds station. Where it passed under Whitehall road became visible last year when they were excavating for the foundations of whatever it is they're putting on the site now (don't know if you can still see it now) I assume it's also visible on the other side of Whitehall road too but haven't been in a position to look, on the google overhead shot the railway tracks are still visible in the now closed car park on the corner of Whitehall road and Globe road. Recently they were doing some work at the very top of Globe Road and I did wonder if they were maybe shoring up the road above the tunnel as it looks like it ran more or less under the junction and could've been deteriorating with the volume of traffic overhead.