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wiggy (User)   Posted on: 30-Sep-2010 11:56:58.
just watched a programme with michael palin,on the last hours of world war1.a guy called george ellison from edmond street,off york street was the last british casualty.can anyone throw up a map of the area,circa 1918?
Cardiarms (User)   Posted on: 30-Sep-2010 19:10:19.
I'm assuming it's York Street by Marsh Lane, no Edmond Street on the 1908 map and nothing for edmond/edmund on Leodis.

Cardiarms (User)   Posted on: 30-Sep-2010 19:20:35.
but a bit of digging find this:

Private George Ellison L/12643
5th (Royal Irish) Lancers
Died on 11th November 1918 aged 25
Husband of Hannah Ellison of 49 Edmund Street, Bank, Leeds

It was to the south of marsh lane station, under what is now Dolphin Street.
Cardiarms (User)   Posted on: 30-Sep-2010 20:31:36.
I've had a mooch around on Leodis and the closest it seems to get is...Dolphin Street! A couple of photos of that and Richmond Street that give you a feel for the area. Edmund Street is back to backs with a pub on the corner. I wonder what happened to his wife.

BLAKEY (User)   Posted on: 30-Sep-2010 20:33:21.
Cardiarms wrote:


Private George Ellison L/12643
5th (Royal Irish) Lancers
Died on 11th November 1918 aged 25
Husband of Hannah Ellison of 49 Edmund Street, Bank, Leeds



Oh what a wicked tragedy - surely 11th November 1918 at 11am was the final cease fire which brought WW1 to a close ??
Cardiarms (User)   Posted on: 30-Sep-2010 20:38:45.
He wasn't alone. There were 11,000 casualties on that day, many even though the armistice was signed at 5am to come into force at 11 am.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7696021.stm

This article says he was 40


Cardiarms (User)   Posted on: 30-Sep-2010 20:53:45.
By an irony of fate he was buried a few yards from the first British casualty.

http://www.webmatters.net/cwgc/st_symphorien.htm
dogduke (User)   Posted on: 01-Oct-2010 00:09:30.
BLAKEY wrote:
Cardiarms wrote:


Private George Ellison L/12643
5th (Royal Irish) Lancers
Died on 11th November 1918 aged 25
Husband of Hannah Ellison of 49 Edmund Street, Bank, Leeds



Oh what a wicked tragedy - surely 11th November 1918 at 11am was the final cease fire which brought WW1 to a close ??

Reading one of the BBC sites earlier - lots of French Soldiers were killed
after George,the French were apparently so ashamed of these events that the gravestones recorded the date of death as the 10th.



cnosni (Administrator)   Posted on: 01-Oct-2010 01:14:11.
dogduke wrote:
BLAKEY wrote:
Cardiarms wrote:


Private George Ellison L/12643
5th (Royal Irish) Lancers
Died on 11th November 1918 aged 25
Husband of Hannah Ellison of 49 Edmund Street, Bank, Leeds



Oh what a wicked tragedy - surely 11th November 1918 at 11am was the final cease fire which brought WW1 to a close ??

Reading one of the BBC sites earlier - lots of French Soldiers were killed
after George,the French were apparently so ashamed of these events that the gravestones recorded the date of death as the 10th.


Indeed.

And some daft yank commander decided he would have a crach at the germans before 11am,just to make a name for himself.
cnosni (Administrator)   Posted on: 01-Oct-2010 01:28:38.
Name: ELLISON, GEORGE EDWIN
Initials: G E
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Private
Regiment/Service: 5th (Royal Irish) Lancers
Age: 40
Date of Death: 11/11/1918
Service No: L/12643
Additional information: Son of James W. and Mary Ellison; husband of Hannah Maria Ellison, of 49, Edmund Street, Bank, Leeds. Believed to be the last British battle casualty of the war.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: I. B. 23.
Cemetery: ST. SYMPHORIEN MILITARY CEMETERY


-source Commonwealth War Graves Commssion


liits (User)   Posted on: 01-Oct-2010 01:39:29.
Here’s Edmund Street.
It’s only a theory but....... The building marked “A” is the Buffalo Inn at No. 1 Clay Street. Working on the assumption that the odd numbers run along the south side of the streets, I reckon that 49 could be where I’ve marked it.
liits (User)   Posted on: 01-Oct-2010 01:41:18.
And here's an overlay on Google Earth.

Si (Administrator)   Posted on: 01-Oct-2010 11:39:14.
wiggy wrote:
just watched a programme with michael palin,on the last hours of world war1.a guy called george ellison from edmond street,off york street was the last british casualty.can anyone throw up a map of the area,circa 1918?

I saw this programme earlier in the year. Wasn't it Timewatch or something?
Si (Administrator)   Posted on: 01-Oct-2010 11:47:32.
cnosni wrote:
Indeed.

And some daft yank commander decided he would have a crach at the germans before 11am,just to make a name for himself.

Back from Canada, Chris?


Cardiarms (User)   Posted on: 01-Oct-2010 16:45:30.
By way of nothing the old Edmund Street water main was only abandoned in 1997, probably when the new houses were built. It's still there and the last and only indication of the old street configuration.
cnosni (Administrator)   Posted on: 01-Oct-2010 21:08:38.
Si wrote:
cnosni wrote:
Indeed.

And some daft yank commander decided he would have a crach at the germans before 11am,just to make a name for himself.

Back from Canada, Chris?

Yeah and still jet lagged


cnosni (Administrator)   Posted on: 01-Oct-2010 21:15:52.
Not a Leeds lad

UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919
about George Edwin Ellison Name: George Edwin Ellison
Birth Place: York
Residence: Leeds
Death Date: 11 Nov 1918
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Hull
Rank: Private
Regiment: Household Cavalry and Cavalry of the Line (incl. Yeomanry and Imperial Camel Corps)
Battalion: Corps of Lancers. 5th Lancers (Royal Irish)
Number: 12643
Type of Casualty: Killed in action
Theatre of War: Western European Theatre

Cardiarms (User)   Posted on: 01-Oct-2010 21:54:21.
One of the articles said he was a miner, I wonder if that was in the East leeds pits?

liits (User)   Posted on: 01-Oct-2010 23:31:02.
A quick rummage through Ancestry and in 1901 George turns up living with his parents and sister in West Hartlepool. He is employed as a barman in a pub.
Looking at his family tree, he has, apparently, a living son. Because the person is still living, their details are concealed. There is nothing on his wife’s info that indicates that she re-married [Having married George in 1912].
Cardiarms (User)   Posted on: 01-Oct-2010 23:46:32.
His grand-daughters are on the bbc link.