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# Posted on: 16-Mar-2008 11:15:09.  


fevlad wrote:
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You couldn't do 75% of things we used to do, health and safety and the pc brigade wouldn't allow it. They helped to kill off childhood fun, for instance: british bulldogs would have to be played by kids wearing loads of bubblewrap clothes he he.

nothing wrong with being 'pc' it means people get treatewd fairly

nobody can stop children playing games like are mentioned on here in their own free time.
If childen can't play british bulldog, how come they can play rugby?

habits change-there are fewer streets that are avaiulable to play in nowadays because of the presence of traffic or parked cars.
people are more aware of perverts-there were probably just as many around back in the day, but people weren't as conscious of these things
there are other alternatives-some good: more children have mountain bikes, skate boards, roller blades and so on-all healthy activirties, some when not used in moderation -compuiters, tv and so on.


Well said fevlad.

As for the halcyon days of anything-goes: we were banned from playing football in the playground if you were wearing 'slip-on' shoes in case they flew off and hit someone. And this was in 1968.


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[quotenick="oldleedsman"][quotenick="fevlad"]
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Well said fevlad.

As for the halcyon days of anything-goes: we were banned from playing football in the playground if you were wearing 'slip-on' shoes in case they flew off and hit someone. And this was in 1968.



It's certainly true that at my school, we had to walk around the hall in single file, clockwise, and in silence. The classrooms were lettered and the boys entrance was between rooms "E" and "F" so if you wanted "E" you had to walk all the way round to get there. The idea was presumably that there be some order and no rushing and pushing.
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# Posted on: 16-Mar-2008 12:36:29.  


Hey HTB again! Good old 'Cockernee' humour eh?
Please don't mention Watneys in this neck o' the woods,tho!
It's a dirty word, along with 'Pale' and 'Brown' ales!
So many new postings I can't get round em allGRRR!

White dog poo,Wiggy? Usually due to being out in all weathers and fading! also, prudent folks take a plastic bag with them,now, so
the poo hasn't time to 'mature'(Manure?) if left lying in the grass!
Minestew(!)The mobile [edited for content] machines are much better fed with
nutritious'Butcher's Dog' meat,these days, so the dumps may
probably retain their colour.(Don't I talk a lorra dung?Answers
on a 'PC' postcard please,not to the webmasters!).(thought this colour changing would appeal to Chameleon!!).
Gotta fairly long list here that I lay awake into the early hours
thinking up!(Wife wasn't pleased!).
Lever's 'Easy'and Erasmic shaving sticks(Soap) which was off
the ration during the war and certain unpatriotic ladies would
buy it for themselves to use instead of Lux and Knights Castile!
No fun shaving in Sunlight soap or Lifebuoy carbolic in lieu! (No
Lecky razors in them days)
Rolls razors ,self stropping, which made a horrible 'clack clacking'
noise being sharpened.usually earned a flying army boot for
the perpetrator, when done in a 'billet' full of bods kipping!
Kolynos toothpaste slogan(The Greeks had a word for it?)
Pepsodent toothpaste (still available?)
'Indian Brandee' ,taken with warm water for indigestion
Carter's little liver pills and Bile Beans for 'sluggish constitutions'
Beecham's pills(Worth a Guinea (£1.1Shilling, <or 30 bob> a box!).
Seidlitz powders in a fold of paper for hangovers (Pre.
Alka Seltzer or Fynnon Salts. Old joke; Doctor, to sweet young
thing in surgery,'Do you Take Fynnon's,my dear?'
SYT, ' Ooh Doctor,I can take all of them, Thin 'un's Thick 'uns, large
or small!
Doctor Williams' Pink Pills for pale people! (For your anaemic
daughters!)
Webbing Anklets(gaiters) for soldiers in battledress,Much time wasted with khaki blanco and brasso(for the buckles),ridiculous if going into action!Now thankfully,a thing of the past for Squaddies
and Raf Regiment erks!
Posting now to check back all the prolific postings prior to this!
Hope I've not plagiarised anyone?
Arry














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# Posted on: 16-Mar-2008 12:54:23.  


as a kid, i thought that poodles did white poo.
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# Posted on: 16-Mar-2008 13:23:32.  


council orange juice/cod liver oil and virol. I used to love virol.

men coming out of work on pay day and getting drunk before going home skint


racist comedians

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# Posted on: 16-Mar-2008 13:36:43.  


Ey up Arry, (now I'm an 'Arry too and there's no h in my name either) Now, no offence taken as you weren't to know, I have to tell you, as my family are from Stepney, not Bow, that associating me with that stuck up bunch, what gives themselves airs, just 'cos they've got ringing in the ears, is like calling you a Lancastrian (assuming you're from hereabouts, apologies if I'm in error.)

Now, Virol, is that the malt stuff you used to have a spoonful of every day, along with the cod liver oil and rosehip syrup (oily, fishy and sweet, strangely nice combination)?

HTB
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HTB wrote:
We used to do Ip dip dog S**T, But then I am from the East End, I see Eeny meeny macceracca, is still going, is it based on a foreign number system?


Like yan, tan, tetherer, netherer perhaps?
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# Posted on: 16-Mar-2008 14:52:13.  


Trojan wrote:
HTB wrote:
We used to do Ip dip dog S**T, But then I am from the East End, I see Eeny meeny macceracca, is still going, is it based on a foreign number system?


Like yan, tan, tetherer, netherer perhaps?


isn't that a norse system?
still used in the dales for counting sheep

there's a folk song called 'Old Molly Metcalfe' which features this.
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# Posted on: 16-Mar-2008 16:02:13.  


Well stuff me! (Get Back, I say!), By'Time I've made and served up dindins and weshed up there's flippin' more postings!
Can't keep up wi'it! Not done me emails (spam) yet today. No I'm
Not stopping up all neet like some o' you young uns! I need me
beauty sleep" (Not working,you say?).

Stevief lad.Our TV(Sony), takes ages to come on still and its 6 years old!We still have woodchip on hall, stairs and landing! Needs
a new coat of Dulux now as I haven't time with all this SL posting!
Excuses! Town coalgas was far superior to this Northsea and Russian imported 'marsh gas' stuff. AND it stank horrible if you got a leak so not much chance of carbon monoxide poisoning.
Unless you intended to say'goodbye world! Wife is certain that Town gas was hotter.too And I miss the old
gasometers at the top of the street in the 40'/50's!
The only Hot rice I know of is 'Eggfried'from China Chef.Luvly!
Copymachines and duplicators. one we had also was 'Gestetner'.

Banda. You typed your script copy onto a special format sheet
which was rollered onto a bed of jelly substance and the foolscap
or A4 blank sheets were fed over the jelly surface and hey prescott!
the print was transferred onto your pristine sheets. Easier, nowadays with scanner and printer!

Quote: 'Old Hand Cranked Spirit Duplicator?',sounds very much
like Simonm!!

We called the 'three pegs' game ;'Mumbly Peg!'
Then, we used to play 'Handball' in the school hall with a great heavy leather covered ball with a 5lb weight inside it! 2 teams.
you had to roll or carry the ball from the centre line forward and get it onto a gym mat in your opponent's half Good fun except when you got a 'splinter' from the unplaned floorboards up your
finger nail!(When I was in the Airforce that ball was called a medicine ball!)Better than a 'Number 9' from the MO!

H T B. I think that 'eeny meeny 'maccaraca, eirar dumeracka chicka bocka lollipoppa om pom poosh, came from The Romany.
Yes, I'm a 'Strong in'arm thick in'head' true blue Yorkie,but have
lived in Surrey,Wiltshire,Essex,Herts(one step ahead of the Bailiff!)
for a fair spell But I'm alright now! Joking!

Fevlad. Yethera pethera counting was also used up in The Lake
District,Durham and Northumberland as well as the Dales.
Right,I haveto scarper now and answer emails etc
Mebbees some more tomorrow!
Cheers
Arry
PS I went to school with Molly Metcalf!









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# Posted on: 16-Mar-2008 17:13:40.  


fevlad wrote:
Trojan wrote:
HTB wrote:
We used to do Ip dip dog S**T, But then I am from the East End, I see Eeny meeny macceracca, is still going, is it based on a foreign number system?


Like yan, tan, tetherer, netherer perhaps?


isn't that a norse system?
still used in the dales for counting sheep

there's a folk song called 'Old Molly Metcalfe' which features this.

I'm not sure whether it's Norse or Anglo Saxon, but it's certainly used in North Yorkshire, and Cumbria. I used to deal with a guy in Malton who used "yan" for one and "tiv" for to all the time. He once gave me a large order, and I wasn't sure whether he'd placed it or not, so I asked him if it was correct his words? "Ah's think soa"
I would think that the Romany origin of enny meeny is probably more likely.
The version my cousin and her mates (all girls) used was "eeny meeny miney mo, put the baby on the po, when it's done wipe its bum, eeny" etc.
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# Posted on: 16-Mar-2008 17:19:45.  


Trojan wrote:
fevlad wrote:
Trojan wrote:
HTB wrote:
We used to do Ip dip dog S**T, But then I am from the East End, I see Eeny meeny macceracca, is still going, is it based on a foreign number system?


Like yan, tan, tetherer, netherer perhaps?


isn't that a norse system?
still used in the dales for counting sheep

there's a folk song called 'Old Molly Metcalfe' which features this.

I'm not sure whether it's Norse or Anglo Saxon, but it's certainly used in North Yorkshire, and Cumbria. I used to deal with a guy in Malton who used "yan" for one and "tiv" for to all the time. He once gave me a large order, and I wasn't sure whether he'd placed it or not, so I asked him if it was correct his words? "Ah's think soa"
I would think that the Romany origin of enny meeny is probably more likely.
The version my cousin and her mates (all girls) used was "eeny meeny miney mo, put the baby on the po, when it's done wipe its bum, eeny" etc.


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# Posted on: 16-Mar-2008 17:26:34.  


just remembered that Old Molly Metcalfe is a jake Thackray song
although I had it on a Tony capstick album

so there's the leeds connection!
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fevlad wrote:
just remembered that Old Molly Metcalfe is a jake Thackray song
although I had it on a Tony capstick album

so there's the leeds connection!

My favourite Jake Thackray song is "The Kirkstall Road Girl" which is about a prostitute who's gone up in the world and contains the line "Now she's got a Rolls Royce voice and an E Type smile" I suppose that must date it.
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Trojan wrote:
fevlad wrote:
just remembered that Old Molly Metcalfe is a jake Thackray song
although I had it on a Tony capstick album

so there's the leeds connection!

My favourite Jake Thackray song is "The Kirkstall Road Girl" which is about a prostitute who's gone up in the world and contains the line "Now she's got a Rolls Royce voice and an E Type smile" I suppose that must date it.


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they're all down water lane now
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# Posted on: 16-Mar-2008 21:50:44.  


In Glasgow you find out who is "het" or "out" using:

Zeenty teenty figgury fell
Ell dell domin ell
Arky parky torry rope
An tan toosy joke
Eery orry
Eery orry
You are out.

I might have blown my cover, because any Leeds primary pupil from 1974 to 2005 might recognise this means of identifying the winner!

For anyone who is interested in Childrens' Oral Traditions, there is a programme on Radio 4 on Monday 17th March at 3.45 pm. It is presented by Michael Rosen, and although not from Leeds, should contain interesting contemporary material.
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The Opies certainly described in one of their books a game we used to play at junior school. I've never seen it anywhere since. One lad stood with his back to the wall and another lad made like a leapfrog back with his head cradled in the first lad's hands, someone jumped on the second lad's back, and then a third lad got into the leapfrog position up against the second lad, and another lad jumped on his back, and so on, the idea was once everyone was in position for the lads who were "down" to try and dislodge those who were "mounted". It's fifty years since I played but the only other place I've seen it is in this book by the Opies.
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Trojan wrote:
The Opies certainly described in one of their books a game we used to play at junior school. I've never seen it anywhere since. One lad stood with his back to the wall and another lad made like a leapfrog back with his head cradled in the first lad's hands, someone jumped on the second lad's back, and then a third lad got into the leapfrog position up against the second lad, and another lad jumped on his back, and so on, the idea was once everyone was in position for the lads who were "down" to try and dislodge those who were "mounted". It's fifty years since I played but the only other place I've seen it is in this book by the Opies.
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Trojan

That game was played regularly at Lower Wortley PS and West Leeds HS in the early 60's It was then called Ship & Anchor
The sports master Stan Wilson used to encourage it.

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wiggy wrote:
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Sorrry to lower the tone, but white dog poo. Never see that anymore!
that was my opening salvo,along with the two headed dog!


Oh yeah - just noticed. Still wondered why it was white though!

Have a look at this for some answers...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/notesandqueries/query/0,,-185831,00.html
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oldleedsman wrote:
Toys: potato guns; guns with a reel of caps; small rockets that you put single caps in and threw in the air and when they landed on the pavement, they went 'bang' (simple pleasures, eh); sekiden guns that fired little pellets; water pistols.

Sweets: bubblegum which came with cards that you collected. The reverse of each card made up a big picture. There were lots of series - American Civil War, The Monkees, The Man From Uncle, etc.
Sweet cigarettes that also had cards you collected.

Yeah, I remember them rockets. And Sekiden guns....little gold coloured plaster pellets you poured into a hole in the top. There was also a toy gun with a real revolving cylinder into the back of which you fitted a plastic ring of caps. In fact you don't see toy guns at all these days. I seem to remember calling the bubble-gum cards "Civil War Atrocity" cards, as they had gory illustrations, like a captured confederate soldier being tied to the business-end of a cannon!
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men calling each other 'luv' but not in a gay way
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stevief wrote:
Window cleaners up ladders(it's a H & S issue).Also columns of midges on a summers evening.Bonfires on cobbled streets.Milk freezing in the bottle and the Blue Tits getting to it.Icicles.
White Cross quality perambulators(the Rolls/Royce of prams) I never saw anyone trying to get on a bus with one though!

Hi there. Its actually Silver Cross prams, and mothers used to use their legs in those days and WALK places!! Now they swing babies round in those things that look a bit like supermarket baskets and travel about in taxis, usually at our, the taxpayers' expense! Cheers
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astragirl wrote:
stevief wrote:
Window cleaners up ladders(it's a H & S issue).Also columns of midges on a summers evening.Bonfires on cobbled streets.Milk freezing in the bottle and the Blue Tits getting to it.Icicles.
White Cross quality perambulators(the Rolls/Royce of prams) I never saw anyone trying to get on a bus with one though!

Hi there. Its actually Silver Cross prams, and mothers used to use their legs in those days and WALK places!! Now they swing babies round in those things that look a bit like supermarket baskets and travel about in taxis, usually at our, the taxpayers' expense! Cheers


fathers do as well. When I was a dad of young uns I don't recall using a taxi at the taxpayers expense though.
For some reason when I was getting on a bus I never got any help from fellow passengers
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LS1 wrote:
wiggy wrote:
LS1 wrote:
Sorrry to lower the tone, but white dog poo. Never see that anymore!
that was my opening salvo,along with the two headed dog!


Oh yeah - just noticed. Still wondered why it was white though!

Have a look at this for some answers...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/notesandqueries/query/0,,-185831,00.html
great stuff,especially the guy who took photos and celebrated when he found some!!
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astragirl wrote:
stevief wrote:
Window cleaners up ladders(it's a H & S issue).Also columns of midges on a summers evening.Bonfires on cobbled streets.Milk freezing in the bottle and the Blue Tits getting to it.Icicles.
White Cross quality perambulators(the Rolls/Royce of prams) I never saw anyone trying to get on a bus with one though!

Hi there. Its actually Silver Cross prams, and mothers used to use their legs in those days and WALK places!! Now they swing babies round in those things that look a bit like supermarket baskets and travel about in taxis, usually at our, the taxpayers' expense! Cheers


Now even the Supermarkets try to avoid them walking more than 20ft from the car park to the door and changing rooms. How ever did we manage in the past!
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