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# Posted on: 12-Dec-2007 21:33:58.  


Ok I'm probably going to get abuse for not knowing this but its a topic of conversation at work at the moment and nobody has the answer. Why the Taps when it says Scarborough Hotel outside. I'm pretty sure I have heard the answer to this somewhere and no doubt it has been on here before but please do tell.
    
 
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# Posted on: 12-Dec-2007 21:40:03.  


No expert mesen but probably to do wi' tap room
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# Posted on: 12-Dec-2007 21:42:48.  


Yea I said that at work but its gnawing away at me that I have heard the answer to this somewhere and it has some history behind it I just cant recall what.
 
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# Posted on: 12-Dec-2007 21:48:42.  


certainly nothing to do with being a brewery tap unless I am very much mistaken
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# Posted on: 12-Dec-2007 22:15:03.  


A bit pedantic of me but the pub is actually called the Scarbrough Hotel after former landlord Henry Scarbrough (landlord from 1823-47.) Most people spell it as Scarborough as in the east coast town, so maybe we see the pub sign without actually looking at it (if you get what I mean.) As for the 'Taps', I ain't got a clue.
 
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# Posted on: 12-Dec-2007 22:40:03.  


More useless info:::::

This historic pub, close to Leeds train station, stands on the site where, in former days, there was a moated Medieval manor house.

From its roots as a Medieval manor house, the building that houses the Scarbrough Hotel has had many occupants, including Christopher Wilson, the Bishop of Bristol.

Henry Scarbrough took the property in 1826, which became the Kings Arms - an extensive hotel patronised by many distinguished guests and visitors to the town. The hotel prospered until about 1863 when the railway viaduct and Queens Hotel were built nearby.

This was the end for the hotel, but the beginning of a great connection with the Music Hall - the Kings Arms gained fame when taken over in the late 1890s by Fred Wood, who also owned the Leeds City Varieties. Fred Wood established the Scarbrough Hotel Public House, named after Henry Scarbrough, in place of the Kings Arms.

At that time, the Scarbrough boasted a large concert hall and Fred Wood organised and held talent nights there. Any act showing promise was put on at the City Varieties.

There is a tiled faience at ground floor. Raised tiled lettering, green on gold: 'IND, COOPE'S BURTON ALES'. On the parapet at roof level in raised stone: 'IND, COOPE'S ALES'
Is this the end of the story ...
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I posted something about the Scarborough in a previous thred...with a few shots of the place. It did get me wondering aswell about the "taps" moniker.

There is also the Headingley Taps, strangely enough in Headingley!
 
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The Blue plaque of the taps...
 
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The well known pub sign of the Scarborough Taps
 
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# Posted on: 12-Dec-2007 23:57:12.  


The Headingley Taps is a modern invention though - 1980s- and the name is a pun on the fact that the building once belonged to Leeds City Water Works.
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Not so long ago, I was coming back to Leeds for a family funeral. Wanting to make a bit of an event of it, I rang an old mate and enticed him away from his wife for an evening on the beer. "Where shall I meet you?" Well, after going through several places, and me not knowing any of them, I finaly asked if the Scabby Taps was still around [and still known by the same name] having been assured that it was, that was where we met. We went on to drink in lots of other places, all of which had been there when I still lived in Leeds but were, by then, known by other names. Ah well, thanks God for the Scabby Taps.
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# Posted on: 16-Dec-2007 17:28:44.  


I believe the origin of 'taps' is described on the back of the menu in the pub. If I remember right its says its something to do with the back room music hall they used to have ie tap dancers?
 
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LS13 wrote:
I believe the origin of 'taps' is described on the back of the menu in the pub. If I remember right its says its something to do with the back room music hall they used to have ie tap dancers?

I suspect that anything to do with tap dancers is or was a joke. The origin of 'taps' is I suspect the rather mundane one of a 'tap room' -particularly if the original hotel had a tap-room that was open to all not just residents.
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# Posted on: 17-Dec-2007 11:39:19.  


I remember when beer was sometimes 2p cheaper in some pub's tap-rooms. In others, there was even an unwritten rule whereby it was men only. On Sunday lunchtimes in the White Cross, Pudsey, bread and mucky dripping, pieces of pork pie and raw black pudding slices were served gratis in the tap-room. Nice.    
 
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Si wrote:
I remember when beer was sometimes 2p cheaper in some pub's tap-rooms. In others, there was even an unwritten rule whereby it was men only. On Sunday lunchtimes in the White Cross, Pudsey, bread and mucky dripping, pieces of pork pie and raw black pudding slices were served gratis in the tap-room. Nice.    


When I worked at the Manson in Crossgates [and I left there in '89] the beer was cheeper in the "tap 'ole" then it was in the lounge. Women were allowed in but even I can remember when the Station in crossgates excluded women from the tap room. In my current pub, the King William IV, Hampstead, very few women come in and it's a bit of a bonus. The fact that all the men are "good with colours" is besides the point.........
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I wonder how widespread the use of the word "Taps" to describe a pub is. Apart from the Scarbrough and Headingley ones, there is the Ilkley Taps (a recent use of the word, I think) and there used to be a Melbourne Taps in Otley. Anyone know of any others?
 
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# Posted on: 18-Dec-2007 17:29:19.  


I Lived in LUTON(Exile!) in the 60's, The pub at the top of George St
was called the 'Brewery Taps'. Apart from 'Wicket' style pumps on
the counter,they had Strong ale, 'Dragon's Blood' and
'IPA' etc, in casks on trestles at the back. The casks had Brass
Taps to draw the ale. The brewery then, was 'Flowers' and it was nearly as good as 'Tets'. Of course,Whitbread's 'bought out'
Flower's later. I believe the main brewery of Flower's was In
Stratford on Avon and they had William Shakespeare as one
of their Logo's on pumps and bottles.
Hope that's of some interest!
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PS there's always Deolali (Doolally)tap,which you could get
drinking too much Tetley's!
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# Posted on: 18-Dec-2007 19:53:34.  


Si wrote:
I wonder how widespread the use of the word "Taps" to describe a pub is. Apart from the Scarbrough and Headingley ones, there is the Ilkley Taps (a recent use of the word, I think) and there used to be a Melbourne Taps in Otley. Anyone know of any others?

The nearest pub to a brewery is often referred to as the 'Brewery Tap' - Ive heard it applied to the Adelphi - and I believe the Bridge at Kirkstall was referred to as a 'Brewery Tap' in the days of Kirkstall/Duttons/Whitbread. There was a pub in Idle next to the old Trough Brewery called the'Brewery Tap' - I think it might still be there, although the brewery, sadly, has closed.
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# Posted on: 18-Dec-2007 20:13:20.  


There's a pub chain called 'Tap and Spile'.I haven't seen one in Leeds but there's one in York,Harrogate and Whitby.
 
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# Posted on: 18-Dec-2007 20:35:39.  


In Leeds the "tap and spile" is what became of chaplins on the Georgian arcade of t' Merrion Centre. Sadly the powers that be would not renew its lease about 10 years ago and to my knowledge its been vacant ever since. tap in this case along with spile was more to do with parophanalia related to brewing rather than the room.

on another note. I had always believed the Adelphi to be the brewery tap. however as I understand it that is reserved for the pub on site and as discussed on another thread there was a pub more on site of Tets brewery than t'Adelphi    
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stevief wrote:
There's a pub chain called 'Tap and Spile'.I haven't seen one in Leeds but there's one in York,Harrogate and Whitby.


When a barrel is first opened, it is "tapped." A "spile" is a primitive valve to release excess gas from the barrel. My grandad was a cooper.
 
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