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johnnyg
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The buzzers are still in place in the Skinners Arms on Scott Hall Road. They still worked in the early 1980s although using them attracted more dirty looks from bar staff than waiters.
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nobbyslass
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so drapsey is the Cemetary hotel still going, also how about the Hanover arms in Lower Wortley?
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nobbyslass
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Do clubs come into this? Grandad used to work at the Catholic club next to the Holy Family School in Parliament Rd in Armley and according to legend stood in as a stand up when a 'turn' didnt turn up
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drapesy
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| nobbyslass wrote: |
| so drapsey is the Cemetary hotel still going, also how about the Hanover arms in Lower Wortley? |
The Cemetery hotel , on Tong Road was demolished many years ago -(1960s I believe). The Hanover is still there - it was closed for a time last year but is now open again. Do you know that the Hanover is called the 'Paraffin' by locals for some obscure reason?!
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dogduke
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| nobbyslass wrote: |
Still havent had an answer to my question in the thread 'things you dont see anymore'. About 'waiting-on inpubs. My grandad used to wait on at the Cemetary Hotel in Tong Rd think it meant taking orders and delivering drinks not just collecting glasses.
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The Leeds Museum site has a selection of the Marc Riboud collection
which includes 'an action snap'of waiting on at the old Wine lodge
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drapesy
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The White Lion on Tong Road has the metal shutters up.
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Geordie-exile
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Does anyone else share my view that the breweries or owners are complicit in pub closures since they see the future potential in the land on which they stand?
Imagine a massive boozer with loads of parking like, ooh, I dunno, The Bridgefield. Knock that down and how many flats can you build?
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nobbyslass
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Is this the biggest thread ever----wish pubs were a big part of the community as they once were --for good or for bad--any comments guys?
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The Parksider
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| Geordie-exile wrote: |
Does anyone else share my view that the breweries or owners are complicit in pub closures since they see the future potential in the land on which they stand?
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No - I think we massively underestimate a very large but very subtle social change. Taking it back a generation before me and beyond drink was seen as an evil as well as a pleasure and drinking in the house was frowned upon by many people whose equivalents today will get a pack of cans in, strike up the Barby and invite the friends and kids round.
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Si
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I don't know if anyone agrees with me, but the paranoid part of my brain sees an insidious campaign to demonise alcohol. For example, twenty years ago it was normal to spend your lunch break in the pub. As Parksider said, years ago, drinking at home with friends was rare unless it was a celebration. It's as if, like smoking, it's being pushed slowly underground.
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sundowner
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The Black Bull in Pudsey has closed its licence has been revoked i wonder if it will manage to open again.?
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simong
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| Si wrote: |
| I don't know if anyone agrees with me, but the paranoid part of my brain sees an insidious campaign to demonise alcohol. For example, twenty years ago it was normal to spend your lunch break in the pub. As Parksider said, years ago, drinking at home with friends was rare unless it was a celebration. It's as if, like smoking, it's being pushed slowly underground. |
For one part, a lot of the function of the NHS has been switched to prevention rather than cure and the education on 'safe' limits is there to save the NHS money in the long run. However, it feels like a lot of people in the health business take these limits as gospel, and if, like me, you find yourself needing regular checkups, these limits are more preached than advised. It does seem that there are zealots who would like to enforce limits in the name of health but as happened the other week, sensibly the government is keeping away from legislation and sticking to advice. However, the drinking culture has changed in my lifetime. Where it might have been three pints of Tetley's at lunchtime, it might now be three pints of Stella or similar, which is far stronger.
I can remember real heavy drinking miners at my local WMC who would claim that they'd drink twenty pints at a session and probably did, but it was what is now called a 'session bitter' like Tetleys or (more likely where I was) Ward's or Stone's, or even mild, which could be weaker still. It didn't stop them weighing 20 stone and dying of cirrhosis or even gout but they could sustain it.
The proposal by the Scottish Government to put minimum prices on drink also sound like a restriction, and on one side it could be perceived as a middle class thing as it seeks to outlaw such horrible things as 'vodka' made in a cat cracker or 'cider' that has never seen a real apple by basically making it uneconomic to sell, but in the other hand it won't stop the good residents of Morningside drinking a bottle or two of a nice red every night.
There are countries that have attempted to control alcohol consumption by nationalising its sale and/or pricing out of reach but studies suggest that it makes little difference in consumption: one thing that history proves is that if human beings want to get drunk, they'll find a way of doing it.
So yes, there is a degree of disencouragement to drink because of the health benefits and consequent reduction of stress on the health services, but drinking habits themselves have changed. One consequence of the current state of the economy seems to be that in some aspects it might well be changing back with the return of cask ale to pubs.
While I've been writing this, I saw an advert for two cases of the usual suspect beers for £15 at Sainsbury's in the half time break. That's 24 440ml cans. That's 62.5p per can. Compared to a rough average of £2.30 a pint in a pub you can see the attraction, but also, surely the danger.
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drapesy
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I hear the Haddon Hall is next to go...
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Chrism
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That's the feller cheers Cardi!
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Aeldfrith
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The "Tut" (and Shive) in Yeadon has a sign written on the door saying "Reopening soon."
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drapesy
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simong
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| Aeldfrith wrote: |
| The "Tut" (and Shive) in Yeadon has a sign written on the door saying "Reopening soon." |
Saw that this morning. I hope someone is going to make a go of it as it has huge potential even now.
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Si
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The Woolpack in Otley is shut.
The Station in Yeadon has a "For Sale" sign outside.
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Aeldfrith
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| simong wrote: |
| Aeldfrith wrote: |
| The "Tut" (and Shive) in Yeadon has a sign written on the door saying "Reopening soon." |
Saw that this morning. I hope someone is going to make a go of it as it has huge potential even now.
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Sign now says 2nd May. There's been a lot of activity inside and they're advertising for staff.
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drapesy
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| Aeldfrith wrote: |
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| Aeldfrith wrote: |
| The "Tut" (and Shive) in Yeadon has a sign written on the door saying "Reopening soon." |
Saw that this morning. I hope someone is going to make a go of it as it has huge potential even now.
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Sign now says 2nd May. There's been a lot of activity inside and they're advertising for staff. |
I hope they'll revert back to the pub's proper name.(Robin Hood)
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Lilysmum
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| drapesy wrote: |
| Aeldfrith wrote: |
| simong wrote: |
| Aeldfrith wrote: |
| The "Tut" (and Shive) in Yeadon has a sign written on the door saying "Reopening soon." |
Saw that this morning. I hope someone is going to make a go of it as it has huge potential even now.
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Sign now says 2nd May. There's been a lot of activity inside and they're advertising for staff. |
I hope they'll revert back to the pub's proper name.(Robin Hood) |
I agree Drapesy, as it's the oldest pub in Yeadon it would be nice to preserve a bit of local history and give it it's original name back.
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RaggyTash
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| drapesy wrote: |
Here's a shot from an almost identical spot I took only a few days ago - the Merrion Hotel sign looks to be the same.
I dont remember the Dortmunder but I remember this as a 'bierkellar' that I think was relaunched several times . It was the Hofbrauhaus for several years and used to serve litre 'stiens' of lager - a great contribution to sensible drinking for the youth of Leeds! at one stage they also had strippers and topless bar maids (not that I ever went when it was like that, of course, I've just been told about it. honestly.)
This is a two for one pic - as there's another former pub shown. I believe it was originally called the General Wade - but I may be mistaken. often known as the 'threepenny bit' its gone through a lot of name changes. The window signs now say 'Junction 7 lounge bar' - but it looks to be closed.
[Apologies for the poor photo - there was so much traffic on wade Lane it took ages to even get this!]
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I cant believe these two gr8 places shut down-especially The Hofbrauhaus-I loved that place,if you couldnt pull a bird in there-you were gay.Alyone know who owns it?i,d love to get in and have a look round "for old times sake"
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RaggyTash
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| drapesy wrote: |
| Not very promising - but the doorway on the left used to lead into the Ostlers. I think the boarded up shop was HMV at one stage. |
Hey-I used to work behind the bar at "The Ostlers"-I was their only bar lad and I love every minute of it-I loved the challenge of serving a packed pub and the busier it got -the happier I was.The landlord was one of the grumpiest men ive ever known "Charlie" he used to just sit at the end of the bar all night and puff on his pipe and moan about everyone and everything-he was always ok with me tho.I think I worked there for about 6 or 7 months and left the week before I moved to Wigan to wed a Wigan lass(what a fool I was)that was in August 1980.The place shut down a year or two later and never opened again-the place next door was the first ever Virgin record store in Leeds
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