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Taking into account Cnosni's theory that the Pine Apple was nearer the St Peter's Street junction than the other two proposed sites so far, I think I've found another possible site, marked pink on the above map.
1: The frontage on the map fits the photo if the door on the right is a covered ginnel, and not next door's entrance.
2: Crucially, look at the photo of the back door(s) and compare to the map. Two small walls are marked protruding from the "ginnel" entrance - they appear to be there in the pic.
3: Except for the toilet (which isn't shown seperately on the map) the buildings at the back on both sides also seem to fit.
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Pink one looks best,its got a gap to access the rear,and what would appear to be the Brewhouse.
Also to the right of the possible brewhouse is waht lokks like next doors outside toilet,as can be seen in the picture looking down towards St Peters Street.
The pink property also has the potential back door in the correct position,looks good to me mate.
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cnosni
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Having said that Si the High Street photo seems to show a door rather than a ginnel entrance to the right (as you look at the pic).
Note what appears to be a 3 pane window above the door/ginnel,this 3 pane window appears above the door of the Pineapple and the property to the left (as you look at the pic)
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A big thanks for those pics and info Si, they are really interesting and I can now picture where Myrtle St was. My ancestor moved from there to Wingham Terrace and looking at the pic of Wingham, I guess Myrtle must have been pretty bad! Thanks also for the map showing Barkers buildings (thanks Chemimike for cracking that one), I was double interested in that as I spotted another ancestral street (Springfield St) on it too.
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The Parksider
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| Almost exactly the same view in 1906, during demolition. The area we were discussing appears to have been pulled down. |
Come on Si - you can't post that piccy without explaining what the two people are doing?
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While we wait for Si to tell us, I'll have a guess, Parksider - they have decided that the space left after demolition will be ideal for Maypole Dancing - and have realised that it will be easier to erect the pole before the houses are knocked down!
Any more suggestions?
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Si
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How did you guess, Jim? That's exactly what it says on the Leodis caption!
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Si
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| Si wrote: |
Taking into account Cnosni's theory that the Pine Apple was nearer the St Peter's Street junction than the other two proposed sites so far, I think I've found another possible site, marked pink on the above map.
1: The frontage on the map fits the photo if the door on the right is a covered ginnel, and not next door's entrance.
2: Crucially, look at the photo of the back door(s) and compare to the map. Two small walls are marked protruding from the "ginnel" entrance - they appear to be there in the pic.
3: Except for the toilet (which isn't shown seperately on the map) the buildings at the back on both sides also seem to fit.
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Pink one looks best,its got a gap to access the rear,and what would appear to be the Brewhouse.
Also to the right of the possible brewhouse is waht lokks like next doors outside toilet,as can be seen in the picture looking down towards St Peters Street.
The pink property also has the potential back door in the correct position,looks good to me mate. |
Hi Chris. The doors, etc look good, but there's still a problem. Next door (to the right on the map) is a back-to-back and sticks out much further than next door in the photos. 
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Si
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There seems to have been some renumbering, but before 1870. The 1834 does list the Hop ole at no 24. However the 1872 directory (which lists idividual streets) gives it as no 51 ands the 1893 Kellys gives it as no 47, both on the north side of the street. Both would agree with Si's conclusions . I think numbering was a bit rough & ready about then.
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Hello Si, thanks for the info. I dont actually know which is my ancestral Myrtle St as the address they moved to (Wingham Terrace is nearer the leeds central one but I do know one of the offspring is buried in Beeston in later life, which is nearer the other Myrtle. I will have to find the entry on the 1861 census to see which other streets it is near/ward it is in. They lived at number 149 so do both streets on your map have capacity for that number of buildings?
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Hi Si. Does the Leodis caption mention an early prototype Belisha Beacon? A pole for a barbers shop for very tall men?
As one who has sat at Tilly's feet, I think we should be told!
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Si
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Hi Dee. I think the Myrtle Street off Regent Street is most likely. I've found a Brown's Yard and a Brown's Square nearby (off North Street) and Wingham Terrace was a little further north, running parallel to Roundhay Road. All these, and Barker's Buildings, are north of Quarry Hill, whereas the Myrtle Street in Hunslet is south of the river.
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Si
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Hi Si. Does the Leodis caption mention an early prototype Belisha Beacon? A pole for a barbers shop for very tall men?
As one who has sat at Tilly's feet, I think we should be told! |
Jim - whatever you're on, halve the dosage!!! 
PS Can't get those Cockersdale photos yet. A certain person is in Crete!
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| jim wrote: |
Hi Si. Does the Leodis caption mention an early prototype Belisha Beacon? A pole for a barbers shop for very tall men?
As one who has sat at Tilly's feet, I think we should be told! |
Jim - whatever you're on, halve the dosage!!!
PS Can't get those Cockersdale photos yet. A certain person is in Crete!
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Hi Si I told Jim he should be in bed by five o.clock if not go home. lol
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Tilly, I still think 5pm is a bit early.
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| Tilly, I still think 5pm is a bit early. |
Hi Jim hope you are keeping well we will have to go on an other outing.At the moment i have my grandaughter to look after but after the school holidays i will give you a ring.ps Thats phone not engagement.lol
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