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Brilliant Cardi. Not sure if the car park is still used by CS. Various Departments were 'resident in there and it was closely monitored in the past by cctv at which time your inocent wanderings could have led to the water feeling rather hot! Clearly no longer the case Well done sir.
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Oh, not old dot again
Edit: no seems the pics are a little slow coming up!
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Wife wants me to stop now!
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| Brilliant Cardi. Not sure if the car park is still used by CS. Various Departments were 'resident in there and it was closely monitored in the past by cctv at which time your inocent wanderings could have led to the water feeling rather hot! Clearly no longer the case Well done sir. |
Thanks - there was a couple of Hummers in there at the time kitted out for some sort of party hire.
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Nice bit of photography there!
I'll have to look at them in more detail later. The two types of older stonework, and newer brickwork are very evident seen together. |
Thanks - there's loads of phases of building and diff arches. It's great.
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This must be one of the most popular threads ever,stretching to 10 pages in just over a fortnight.
Jim's insider knowledge and other members going out and looking
and taking photos is amazing participation for the benefit of other posters.
Need to take some time to read thro and ingest.
one of my memories of the Dark Arches/Queens was a huge gas meter,is it still there ?
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Cardi - reference the modern steelwork you mention, would this not be New Station Street as viewed from underneath possibly??
Incidentally, the Commercial garages Ltd Arch which you quite rightly mention as being of a different design is one I have noticed in the past.
I actually thought, without the benifit of viewing it from the back, that at one time, long ago, it had been a road, just an assumption on my part.
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Fascinating stuff,Cardiarms. I've never been under this side of Neville Street, my ramblings were always confined to arches that the Railway hadn't let to tenants,so this is all new to me.
Can I suggest that the concrete pillars you depict support, not City House, looking from the top of Bishopgate Street that is to the west of Neville Street, but the building further east, which used to be the British Railways Staff Association Club? The pillars supporting that building rise some twenty feet or so above New station Street, to allow the bay track and platform to pass beneath it.
It is a place I knew fairly well, as I maintained it's lift, occasionally visited it socially, and on rarer occasions even performed on it's concert room stage!
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Could be, it was a quick visit and I didn't have time to work out the alignment. In my head City House goes over eville Street, but it's strange what you think you know and what is. The club will need something to hold it up and nothing is in evidence in the other arches.
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Big N, I'm not sure but I don't think so. I think New Station Street goes over the takeaways, also in my memory the beams are set lower than the new road, starting at about neville Street ground level at the top of the ramp. It is a bit of a jumble and needs a revisit.
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Jim
Could be, it was a quick visit and I didn't have time to work out the alignment. In my head City House goes over eville Street, but it's strange what you think you know and what is. The club will need something to hold it up and nothing is in evidence in the other arches. |
Looking at Google Earth, Neville street is depicted as passing underneath almost the centre of the eatern wing of City House. A Poulson affair so could be held up on anything, but good chance these are part of the roadway, if steel rather than concrete.
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Looking at Google Earth, Neville street is depicted as passing underneath almost the centre of the eatern wing of City House. A Poulson affair so could be held up on anything |
Bamboo reinforced Polyfilla, apparently...
This thread just gets better and better. It's a shame we don't have an annotated and detailed plan of the arches, showing different levels, stages of build, etc. Presumably, there is something similar in existence somewhere?
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Looking at that pic I think all the other pictures of the Swingate Goit referred to earlier are set behind the building to the right of the station, so the opening that is being bricked up is the entrance to the goit going under the Station yard, the back of the old queens hotel and Bishopgate street. Which I'd put about drop off point at the back by Wetherspoons.
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Chameleon, the east wall of City House is indeed over the ramp and Tram arch to the east of Neville Street. I must write out one hundred times Cardiarms maxim "It's strange what you think you know and what is". If the BRSA club supports are to be seen at arch floor level, this must take place further east.
The picture apparently taken from Park Row you have presented is fascinating. Is the large building towards the left the earlier (probably) Midland Hotel? Your identification of the taxi drop-off point as being directly above the goit entrance accords very well with the 1:500 OS map.
Dogduke, your query about the huge gasmeter struck a chord with me- awaking a long- forgotten memory. I believe it was situated at the far end of Sandford Street, close to the bricked-up arch which must back onto the river ,but my memory is too hazy to be certain. There is a possible reminder of it in the hefty vertical pipe and valve extant there.
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Cardiarms, I have been going past the old tram arch almost everyday for quite some time now, and its only been in the last couple of weeks that the main entrance has been open (although they are advertising car parking spaces available).
I so much wanted to go in but thought the better of it, and after your great photos thought I would go up today ... guess what .... CLOSED.
I hope it wasnt due to uninvited guests, will try again later though.
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Jim - I think that's the original Queen's hotel, the Midland, I think was along Wellington Street and is now flats, i think.
Buff - B*gg*r. Keep watching!
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the Midland, I think was along Wellington Street and is now flats, i think.
That was the Great Northern Hotel.
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Cardiarms, you are right. I should recheck my sources and look more closely. I found the reference I had seen, and it referred to the Midland Station hotel- note small "h". This explains my confusion- the word "Midland" refers to the station, not the hotel.
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