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Heres a pic of Phils i "Liberated" (hope he doesnt min)from page 1 of this thread.

It has the north wing in the centre (note the apex roof line),the south wing is just on the left edge of the shop,with a matching roof line to that of the north wing.
The building in between is the later addition,which im lead to believe will not be part of the redevelopment as from what i had heard of the plans before EMCO intend to try and recreate the hall as closely as possible to what it si believed to have looked like,as there is no actual eyewitness image of the hall,only an artists impression.
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Here is a copy of the artsist "impression of the White Cloth Hall,with thanks to the Illustrated History of Leeds.

You can see the tops of the roofs in Phils picture and compare them with the impression.
The large brick rendering running down the edges on the south and north wing are still in place (as spotted by Drapesy)
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Just to save me a journey (lazy!) can anyone tell me the the name of the company that is now in the site at Buslingthorpe Lane?

Ta!


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cnosni wrote:
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This is great research work by Cnosni and Phill - thanks guys!.
I'm amazed you found that Yorkshire Evening Post article Phill - how did you manage that??? I'm 99 percent certain that that's the article I saw and decided to check out the skulls for myself -(I must have been a strange child!!!)    


Drapesy,i swear to you and all the SLers that we walked into the research room,walked into the area with all this stuff,and i said to Phil
"the answer or a clue is in here somewhere",i picked up a large rectangular thin box,said to Phil just "look at all this stuff ",opened the box and inside was 3 newspaper style YEP special editions that they print every now and then,opened the first one,turned some pages and there they were,thats the honest truth,the first thing we looked at.

Incredible - I think the skulls must be talking to us through the ether!!!!!
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I think it would be great if we could organise some sort of pub get together to discuss/collate all that we have so far and how we are going to move on .
Any one up for it??
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drapesy wrote:
I think it would be great if we could organise some sort of pub get together to discuss/collate all that we have so far and how we are going to move on .
Any one up for it??


When are you thinking of Drapesy?
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Is an evening OK with you guys?
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Nice one LS1 and welcome to Duncan,might be nice to hear the song live,naturally in a suitable (hic) location!!!



That's what I was thinking when we get a result mate. A nice couple of beers while Duncan's band belt out a few songs 'hic' Regular Smiley

Well good news about Y.A.S Chris. There's obviously a sniff of something interesting for those guys!
    

sounds good to me phill
just make sure that no top brass blokes try stealng your's and chris's thunder, i know this has been a team effort and i know there's no 'I' in team but you two have done some fine work on this project so just make sure you get some recognition lads eh?
anyhow I'm glad things seem to have steamrolled and i hope that in the next few days maybe we will have a name for these to poor lads,then we can get the skulls back home where they belong!    
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Brandy wrote:
Phill_d wrote:
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Nice one LS1 and welcome to Duncan,might be nice to hear the song live,naturally in a suitable (hic) location!!!



That's what I was thinking when we get a result mate. A nice couple of beers while Duncan's band belt out a few songs 'hic' Regular Smiley

Well good news about Y.A.S Chris. There's obviously a sniff of something interesting for those guys!
    

sounds good to me phill
just make sure that no top brass blokes try stealng your's and chris's thunder, i know this has been a team effort and i know there's no 'I' in team but you two have done some fine work on this project so just make sure you get some recognition lads eh?
anyhow I'm glad things seem to have steamrolled and i hope that in the next few days maybe we will have a name for these to poor lads,then we can get the skulls back home where they belong!
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cnosni wrote:
drapesy wrote:
I think it would be great if we could organise some sort of pub get together to discuss/collate all that we have so far and how we are going to move on .
Any one up for it??


When are you thinking of Drapesy?

How about an evening next week to give people some time to organise things ? Friday next week for arguments sake?
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where abouts does duncan and his band play next?
i wouldn't mind a closer look/listen to him and his music
that K1 song of his sounds like the opening song to trumptonRegular Smiley
pugh!pugh!barney!mcgrew!cuthbert!dibble!and grubb lol
    
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Im sure i speak on the behalf of the tunnel dweller and myself,but we certainly regard this as a team effort.

In fact when the photo was being taken we were not too happy with us being at the front,but the photographer wass quite "assertive".

Everyone who has posted on here has contributed something,including the location of the skulls where they are,where they were ,maps,snippets of info,research,opinions and support in one form or another.

Keep it up everybody,including those of you just watching,dont be afraid to chip in with your thoughts,you never know someone may have some missing pieces that weve not thought of yet.

As for a "discussion" then im clear Saturday evening this week,Monday or Tuesday,Saturday Sunday next week.

If thats too short notice then shall we see for a couple of weeks time    
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cnosni wrote:
Im sure i speak on the behalf of the tunnel dweller and myself,but we certainly regard this as a team effort.

In fact when the photo was being taken we were not too happy with us being at the front,but the photographer wass quite "assertive".

Everyone who has posted on here has contributed something,including the location of the skulls where they are,where they were ,maps,snippets of info,research,opinions and support in one form or another.

Keep it up everybody,including those of you just watching,dont be afraid to chip in with your thoughts,you never know someone may have some missing pieces that weve not thought of yet.

As for a "discussion" then im clear Saturday evening this week,Monday or Tuesday,Saturday Sunday next week.

If thats too short notice then shall we see for a couple of weeks time    

funnily enough i think it showed on your faces ladsRegular Smiley
you must admit that it is a cracking little story isnt it?
since i first found out about this it seems to have been on my mind all the time?? them damn skulls are haunting me lolRegular Smiley
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cnosni wrote:
Im sure i speak on the behalf of the tunnel dweller and myself,but we certainly regard this as a team effort.

In fact when the photo was being taken we were not too happy with us being at the front,but the photographer wass quite "assertive".

Everyone who has posted on here has contributed something,including the location of the skulls where they are,where they were ,maps,snippets of info,research,opinions and support in one form or another.

Keep it up everybody,including those of you just watching,dont be afraid to chip in with your thoughts,you never know someone may have some missing pieces that weve not thought of yet.

As for a "discussion" then im clear Saturday evening this week,Monday or Tuesday,Saturday Sunday next week.

If thats too short notice then shall we see for a couple of weeks time    


That's a heart-warming post cnosni. There is I'm sure, alot going on with other people which doesn't even make it on to here. I must have scanned/re-read every book, cutting an phamplet I've collected over the years for wxample, just in case I've missed something.

All I found was the small piece in Burt & Grady's book - but as you will know well from family history work, often for every line of value there can be 100 pages of nothing. At least I know where there isn't any info!
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chameleon wrote:
cnosni wrote:
Im sure i speak on the behalf of the tunnel dweller and myself,but we certainly regard this as a team effort.

In fact when the photo was being taken we were not too happy with us being at the front,but the photographer wass quite "assertive".

Everyone who has posted on here has contributed something,including the location of the skulls where they are,where they were ,maps,snippets of info,research,opinions and support in one form or another.

Keep it up everybody,including those of you just watching,dont be afraid to chip in with your thoughts,you never know someone may have some missing pieces that weve not thought of yet.

As for a "discussion" then im clear Saturday evening this week,Monday or Tuesday,Saturday Sunday next week.

If thats too short notice then shall we see for a couple of weeks time    


That's a heart-warming post cnosni. There is I'm sure, alot going on with other people which doesn't even make it on to here. I must have scanned/re-read every book, cutting an phamplet I've collected over the years for wxample, just in case I've missed something.

All I found was the small piece in Burt & Grady's book - but as you will know well from family history work, often for every line of value there can be 100 pages of nothing. At least I know where there isn't any info!


yep and that being said,i therefore am proud to be part of this most excellent teamRegular Smiley
ps/and will stand the team to a pint when we finally get together to discuss where we are up too and where we are going.
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cnosni wrote:
Im sure i speak on the behalf of the tunnel dweller and myself,but we certainly regard this as a team effort.

In fact when the photo was being taken we were not too happy with us being at the front,but the photographer wass quite "assertive".

Everyone who has posted on here has contributed something,including the location of the skulls where they are,where they were ,maps,snippets of info,research,opinions and support in one form or another.

Keep it up everybody,including those of you just watching,dont be afraid to chip in with your thoughts,you never know someone may have some missing pieces that weve not thought of yet.

As for a "discussion" then im clear Saturday evening this week,Monday or Tuesday,Saturday Sunday next week.

If thats too short notice then shall we see for a couple of weeks time    

Now I think about it perhaps a Friday or Saturday will not be ideal - pub likely to be noisy /lairy.
How about Sunday Week (4th May)??
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quote cnosni
Im sure i speak on the behalf of the tunnel dweller and myself,but we certainly regard this as a team effort.

In fact when the photo was being taken we were not too happy with us being at the front,but the photographer wass quite "assertive".

Everyone who has posted on here has contributed something,including the location of the skulls where they are,where they were ,maps,snippets of info,research,opinions and support in one form or another.
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Yes I absolutely agree with Chris about the team effort here. I pointed out to the Y.E.P who had done what and also supplied there e-mail addresses to get there version. I also used several quotes from folk on the site hoping to get a few more mentioned as well.
I suppose they have to cram as much info into the story and make it straightforward easy to follow.
Sunday next would be ok for me Drapsey Wink    
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Ok - anyone else up for Sunday 4th may???
and any thoughts on time ( evening for me) and venue - real ale a must!!???    
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Fine by me!
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drapesy wrote:
Ok - anyone else up for Sunday 4th may???
and any thoughts on time ( evening for me) and venue - real ale a must!!???    

The Palace? I think They have bands on at the Duck & Drake Sunday night!
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The Palace, Sunday 4th of May sounds good to me.
BTW Well done Lee and Chris with your research! And welcome to Duncan.
For what it's worth, all teams need a figurehead (especially when dealing with the press,) and I think Phill and Chris make excellent frontmen. There are two skulls after all!    
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Just to add to the body of evidence - the Crown & Fleece [if it's the same one] still existed in 1905. A David T Molineaux is listed as publican here:

http://www.blacksheepindex.co.uk/DRINKM-R.pdf

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Talkng about the Palace I was looking at some pictures over the road of the graves laid out along the rail embankment yesterday. the caption under the picture said 'most of the dates are from the 18th century' I wondered if our 2 soldiers just might be there?    
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Wow, what a lot of progress since yesterday lunchtime when I last logged in!

I checked the Leeds Intelligencer extracts 1791-96 but found nothing of interest. In answer to your question cnosni, there are no further volumes of extracts published by the Thoresby Society, so there's nothing for the period you mention (1803-14).

The only other source of information I can see in the Uni library are some bound volumes of a magazine called The Yorkshireman (1897 onwards - about 20 volumes), which include some articles about the history of Leeds and some good pen-and-ink drawings of yards and buildings. I'll do a general scan through those at lunchtimes in case the story of the skulls is told somewhere in there, and maybe some further info as to their origin. This will take some time as the books are huge but I'll post on here if I find anything!


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Phill_d wrote:
Talkng about the Palace I was looking at some pictures over the road of the graves laid out along the rail embankment yesterday. the caption under the picture said 'most of the dates are from the 18th century' I wondered if our 2 soldiers just might be there?    


Not sure if they would have had marked graves if they were lowley soldiers.

Is it true that there are no actual graves in the embankment and that they were moved when the railway was constructed?
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