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Si
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Think you lot have done a great job. Had a lot of time on my hands recently so I have managed to get to look through every page on this thread, (yes I did a couple of hours every day for the last week) Anyway from what I can gather it does seem as though the story of the 2 men who died seems to be an old folkstale. There is no evidence whatsoever that this happened. It seems that no one knew of this story before 1968 and there is nothing to say that it happened until that story in the YEP was published. I think that them skulls were put there for another reason, mainly the old church that was demolished which were then purchased/stolen so they could be used by the organisations that used to go in the crown and fleece. There seems to be too much evidence pointing towards this especially if you look all these things seem to come together in more or less the same time frame. Anyway its just what I think. Like I said well done everybody anyway it took a lot of hard work. Shame certain companies or organisations weren't as helpful as they could have been. I'm sure the real answer is out there it will surface sooner rather than later. Funny that if it was anywhere else in Leeds you would have had the answer by now, just so happens that the skulls were on the most complicated building in Leeds!
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Sorry Chaddy , but I dont agree .
I'm surprised and so far disappointed that we haven't found any earlier evidence for the 'soldier story' earlier than 1968 (and I strongly suspect if we spoke to old employees of Ion Dyson's we would find it)- but I believe it contains at least a kernel of truth - and much of what we have found out reinforces the story. Remember we doubted that they were placed on the wall of a stable? - that turned out to be true. secondly there was doubt that these buildings belonged to the pub - and again that turned out to be true. My own feeling is that the story passed down by word of mouth only until 1968 - but nevertheless is true at least in some parts and is the raison d'etre of the skulls.
On the other hand we have found no evidence to back up the theories -which are purely speculation on the part of posters here-that the skulls are a) older or b) were placed on the stable wall for any other reason than the 'soldier's story'.
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Hi Drapesy,
I would love the recruits story to be true (even in part) but we have no hard evidence for this. However, there is no proof for any other theory, either (despite the stirling efforts of The Skull Hunters on here!)
My heart goes along with the recruits story, but my head goes along with the Oddfellows, but I stress this is purely my opinion!
It's been fun, though!!!
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Phill_d
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I gotta agree with you Si. Mind you there is a total lack of evidence for anything. I find that astonishing really.
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Si
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cnosni
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Well im in the middle here.
There is no evidence as to the tale of the recruits,but why oh why oh why were the skulls on a second rate lowly stable,out of the way in a ginnel.
Any way we are due a meet up i believe,for those still interested.
Monsieur Drapesy!!
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Chaddy 83
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If only the YEP reporter was still around. He obviously got the story from someone. Would there be any possible way of contacting his family to see if they know anything else on the story or if he left some clues behind??
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Si
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cnosni wrote:
Any way we are due a meet up i believe,for those still interested.
When and where, Chris?
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cnosni
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| Si wrote: |
cnosni wrote:
Any way we are due a meet up i believe,for those still interested.
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When and where, Chris?
Just awaiting a date from Phil and Steve as Steve is going on his jollies.Then we can get our heads together and set a date
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Si
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I'm in Portugal from 27th July to 10th August, I'm afraid.
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Steve Jones
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Well I would be interested in a meeting again if I can make it. I am busy the next couple of weekends though.
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cnosni
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| I'm in Portugal from 27th July to 10th August, I'm afraid. |
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Si
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Yes, I know!
How about the weekend 16th/17th August? Will need some proper ale by then.
BTW, I believe our musical mascot Duncan McFarlane and his Band will be playing Otley Courthouse this Friday, 8:00pm, unless it's been cancelled/postponed. Possible meeting there?
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cnosni
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| Si wrote: |
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| Si wrote: |
| I'm in Portugal from 27th July to 10th August, I'm afraid. |
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Yes, I know!
How about the weekend 16th/17th August? Will need some proper ale by then.
BTW, I believe our musical mascot Duncan McFarlane and his Band will be playing Otley Courthouse this Friday, 8:00pm, unless it's been cancelled/postponed. Possible meeting there?
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Bit short notice for me.Weekend 16th is a bit tight as im off to a Prom night at Castle Howard (Champagne tickets dont you know!),one of my heroes (Jon Lord)is on as support and i intend to take advantage of the champagne (Oh god,here goes,dig from Wiggy coming......Champagne Sah?????)
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Si
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Don't worry about Wiggy, Chris. It looks like he's ended it all!!!
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drapesy
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I think it would be good to have a 'Palace' meeting before too long - either sunday03/08 or 17/08 perhaps ?? how are we fixed for either of those?
at this time of year we probably can't please everyone unfortunately
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Si
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17th of August at The Palace is good for me.
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Tasa
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And me! I'm still really interested in the skulls mystery and would also like to meet up again - I enjoyed the last meet in May! I'm on hols from 1-16th Aug.
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drapesy
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Yes good for me too - Chris, Phill are you ok for that date??
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hi all, i'm on wap at the moment as internet is down, not being rude by not replying. If i can still afford the petrol by then i'll be there!
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cnosni
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| Yes good for me too - Chris, Phill are you ok for that date?? |
The Monday after the 17th im on at 4 in the morning,so unless ican get a swap then im out,but that doesnt mean the majority cant meet up,like you say you cant please everyone
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Si
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So, are we agreed, then? Sunday 17th August at The Palace? What time?
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drapesy
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I think we're best to meet on 03/08/2008 - and if people want to 17/08/2008 as well shall we say 8.00pm both times?. That way everyone should be able to have a chance to have some input.
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What a carry on guys.. Are we not sorted out yet? 
I should be ok for any.
I just noticed the views on this thread is approaching all the sixes too!
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drapesy
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What a carry on guys.. Are we not sorted out yet?
I should be ok for any.
I just noticed the views on this thread is approaching all the sixes too! |
Its true Phill - but this time of year is such a problem with Holidays - I'm up for 2 meetings anyway what does everyone else think???
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cnosni
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What a carry on guys.. Are we not sorted out yet?
I should be ok for any.
I just noticed the views on this thread is approaching all the sixes too! |
Its true Phill - but this time of year is such a problem with Holidays - I'm up for 2 meetings anyway what does everyone else think??? |
Alcoholic,thats what i think!
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drapesy
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What a carry on guys.. Are we not sorted out yet?
I should be ok for any.
I just noticed the views on this thread is approaching all the sixes too! |
Its true Phill - but this time of year is such a problem with Holidays - I'm up for 2 meetings anyway what does everyone else think??? |
Alcoholic,thats what i think!
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D'oh!!
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