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Si
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| I only use a 18-55 lens Chris. I don't need a super zoom for what I do. I can only make any trip tomorrow after 12 ish? I'm busy from then on into the weekend mate. |
Typical im tied up til weekend,having windows done,then in all next week. |
cnosni, when you say "tied up til weekend" does that include the weekend? I could manage Saturday. I actually went to the church last Saturday but it was locked up. I missed the skull on the wall but saw the 1703 grave (but the skull on that wasn't like ours, just etched into the stone rather than carved out of it, if you see what I mean!).
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I can probably manage an hour on Saturday, depending on what time. It's near where I live.
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Tasa
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I can probably manage an hour on Saturday, depending on what time. It's near where I live.
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I can get there by train, so just pick a time to suit you, and I'll meet you at the church.
PS: I have a zoom lens!
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Si
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Hi Tasa,
How's 12:30 sound? I'll bring my old technology zoom lens with me, too. I assume you know where the church is? It's called St. Oswald's and is up The Green behind the swimming baths. It's postcode is LS20 9BB in case you need it. See you there. Anyone else coming?
Si.
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Tasa
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Yes, see you there at 12.30pm on Saturday Si. Just realised I included the wrong name on the quote but I know it's you I'm meeting, not cnosni! Just to be certain, we are talking about St Oswald's (Guiseley Parish Church), aren't we?
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Si
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| Yes, see you there at 12.30pm on Saturday Si. Just realised I included the wrong name on the quote but I know it's you I'm meeting, not cnosni! Just to be certain, we are talking about St Oswald's (Guiseley Parish Church), aren't we? |
Yes. See edited post above. If it isn't, it's Lilysmum to blame!
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Lilysmum
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| Yes, see you there at 12.30pm on Saturday Si. Just realised I included the wrong name on the quote but I know it's you I'm meeting, not cnosni! Just to be certain, we are talking about St Oswald's (Guiseley Parish Church), aren't we? |
Yes. See edited post above. If it isn't, it's Lilysmum to blame!
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It is St.Oswalds, The face on the church clock tower is on the outside,down the right hand side as you look at it from the front as you go through the lytch gate.I'm really worried now for mentioning it,don't want to waste anyone's time it may not be of interest,just wish I could have put my pics on first.
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frisbee
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I came across a pair of skulls today on the outside of the Scouts Hall in Church Street, Boston Spa. I Didn't have a camera with me i'm afraid.
frisbee
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Phill_d
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Any resemblence to our 2 frisbee?
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Si
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| Lilysmum wrote: |
| Si wrote: |
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| Yes, see you there at 12.30pm on Saturday Si. Just realised I included the wrong name on the quote but I know it's you I'm meeting, not cnosni! Just to be certain, we are talking about St Oswald's (Guiseley Parish Church), aren't we? |
Yes. See edited post above. If it isn't, it's Lilysmum to blame!
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It is St.Oswalds, The face on the church clock tower is on the outside,down the right hand side as you look at it from the front as you go through the lytch gate.I'm really worried now for mentioning it,don't want to waste anyone's time it may not be of interest,just wish I could have put my pics on first. |
Don't worry, Lilysmum...it get's me out of the house!
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Tasa
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| Si wrote: |
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| Si wrote: |
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| Yes, see you there at 12.30pm on Saturday Si. Just realised I included the wrong name on the quote but I know it's you I'm meeting, not cnosni! Just to be certain, we are talking about St Oswald's (Guiseley Parish Church), aren't we? |
Yes. See edited post above. If it isn't, it's Lilysmum to blame!
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It is St.Oswalds, The face on the church clock tower is on the outside,down the right hand side as you look at it from the front as you go through the lytch gate.I'm really worried now for mentioning it,don't want to waste anyone's time it may not be of interest,just wish I could have put my pics on first. |
Don't worry, Lilysmum...it get's me out of the house!
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Me too Lilysmum - this project has got me seeing bits of Leeds I've never visited before, so no trip is wasted!
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Si
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'Morning, Tasa. You're up with the lark.
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Tasa
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| 'Morning, Tasa. You're up with the lark. |
Not by choice, I assure you!
It's a shame Boston Spa and Guiseley are at opposite sides of Leeds or we could have gone to the Scout Hall too to look at these other skulls.
Last night I was reading about the Fenian (Irish Republican) Riots of 1867 - there was one in Leeds which set off from Vicar's Croft and processed to St Patrick's church on York Road. Two men were killed, and I wondered if our skulls might have been a subtle memorial to them (and hence not displayed on the outside of the pub) - but I admit that I am now resorting to imagination and not to serious research!!
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Steve Jones
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i think that the other skulls mentioned on here are a bit of a wild goose chase . The best we could hope for would be a similiar style of carving.the information on various carvings etc however is useful and I would suggest putting it into a separate thread .
What do others think?
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Lilysmum
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| Steve Jones wrote: |
i think that the other skulls mentioned on here are a bit of a wild goose chase . The best we could hope for would be a similiar style of carving.the information on various carvings etc however is useful and I would suggest putting it into a separate thread .
What do others think? |
You could be right! I only mentioned St.Oswalds and the gravestone with a skull as a possible help date wise,I certainly don't want to send anyone on a wild goose chase.
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cnosni
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| I only use a 18-55 lens Chris. I don't need a super zoom for what I do. I can only make any trip tomorrow after 12 ish? I'm busy from then on into the weekend mate. |
Typical im tied up til weekend,having windows done,then in all next week. |
cnosni, when you say "tied up til weekend" does that include the weekend? I could manage Saturday. I actually went to the church last Saturday but it was locked up. I missed the skull on the wall but saw the 1703 grave (but the skull on that wasn't like ours, just etched into the stone rather than carved out of it, if you see what I mean!).
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All weekend as well,then on nasty early shifts next week.
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cnosni
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| 'Morning, Tasa. You're up with the lark. |
Not by choice, I assure you!
It's a shame Boston Spa and Guiseley are at opposite sides of Leeds or we could have gone to the Scout Hall too to look at these other skulls.
Last night I was reading about the Fenian (Irish Republican) Riots of 1867 - there was one in Leeds which set off from Vicar's Croft and processed to St Patrick's church on York Road. Two men were killed, and I wondered if our skulls might have been a subtle memorial to them (and hence not displayed on the outside of the pub) - but I admit that I am now resorting to imagination and not to serious research!!
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I wouldnt have thought so Tasa,the Irish werent popular with the locals in those days.
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cnosni
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| Steve Jones wrote: |
i think that the other skulls mentioned on here are a bit of a wild goose chase . The best we could hope for would be a similiar style of carving.the information on various carvings etc however is useful and I would suggest putting it into a separate thread .
What do others think? |
You are right Steve,but these corbels at Guiseley sound interesting so its worth a look.
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Tasa
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A search on Google books revealed the following preview:
'A List of the Lodges Composing the Independent Order of Odd Fellows ...
by Independent Order of Odd Fellows Manchester Unity, Manchester Unity, Independent Order of Odd Fellows - 1876 - 311 pages
113 : 3030, Branch of Hope (1842); Crown and Fleece, Crown- street, ...
No preview available - About this book - Add to my library - More editions'
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I've located a copy of the book at Oxford University Library so I've just emailed them to ask if someone can find the full text of the bit about the Crown & Fleece and send it to me. No guarantee of a reply but worth a shot!
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Tasa
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| Thanks Lilysmum,Si fancy going there as well, its close to you and part of my FH is located there,havent walked round it yet,what do you think?? |
cnosni, as you can't come tomorrow, is there anything you want Si and me to look for, for your family history?
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Geordie-exile
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A search on Google books revealed the following preview:
'A List of the Lodges Composing the Independent Order of Odd Fellows ...
by Independent Order of Odd Fellows Manchester Unity, Manchester Unity, Independent Order of Odd Fellows - 1876 - 311 pages
113 : 3030, Branch of Hope (1842); Crown and Fleece, Crown- street, ...
No preview available - About this book - Add to my library - More editions'
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I've located a copy of the book at Oxford University Library so I've just emailed them to ask if someone can find the full text of the bit about the Crown & Fleece and send it to me. No guarantee of a reply but worth a shot! |
Good thinking Tasa! Fingers crossed.
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cnosni
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| Thanks Lilysmum,Si fancy going there as well, its close to you and part of my FH is located there,havent walked round it yet,what do you think?? |
cnosni, as you can't come tomorrow, is there anything you want Si and me to look for, for your family history?
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Many thanks Christina,but ive a feeling that tere would be too much in there for you to be able to record for me.
I have both my Mums and Dads side in that place,it will be choca bloc with my family.
I am actually working on a complete list of all the names i need to look at at the moment(have just recieved Guiseley PR 1584-1720 on Cd rom) so i was thinking of dedicating a full day at least to wandering around at some stage (monumental inscriptions etc)
Thanks all the same,but when i jump into Guiseley its going to be a very long and deep dive if you know what i mean.
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Good luck with the weekend visits Si & Tasa. I'll be in underneath Skipton tomorrow or I could have joined you 
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Si
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i think that the other skulls mentioned on here are a bit of a wild goose chase . The best we could hope for would be a similiar style of carving.the information on various carvings etc however is useful and I would suggest putting it into a separate thread .
What do others think? |
You could be right! I only mentioned St.Oswalds and the gravestone with a skull as a possible help date wise,I certainly don't want to send anyone on a wild goose chase. |
St. Oswald's was interesting, Lilysmum. The "skull" set in the wall of the church tower looks very old, and I think the tower is the oldest bit of the building visible (1300s.) Does this give us a tentative date for our skulls? Tasa will post a picture when she's got her new software up and running. The skull could be a face - it is very weathered, but interestingly, is carved from a squared block of masonry which extends to either side. It looks original to the building.
The skull and crossbones on the old gravestone is very simplified, being a shallow carved oval with two circles and a triangle forming the eyes and nose. The mason who carved the stone made several mistakes. He spelt "interred" with a b on the end which was altered to a d, and he also ran out of room for the deceased's name, adding the final r of Christopher above the e!
I don't think this trip gets us any further, but I enjoyed myself, and Tasa and I had a pint of Landlord each outside The New Inn in the sunshine, so not a wasted journey!
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Lilysmum
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| Si wrote: |
| Lilysmum wrote: |
| Steve Jones wrote: |
i think that the other skulls mentioned on here are a bit of a wild goose chase . The best we could hope for would be a similiar style of carving.the information on various carvings etc however is useful and I would suggest putting it into a separate thread .
What do others think? |
You could be right! I only mentioned St.Oswalds and the gravestone with a skull as a possible help date wise,I certainly don't want to send anyone on a wild goose chase. |
St. Oswald's was interesting, Lilysmum. The "skull" set in the wall of the church tower looks very old, and I think the tower is the oldest bit of the building visible (1300s.) Does this give us a tentative date for our skulls? Tasa will post a picture when she's got her new software up and running. The skull could be a face - it is very weathered, but interestingly, is carved from a squared block of masonry which extends to either side. It looks original to the building.
The skull and crossbones on the old gravestone is very simplified, being a shallow carved oval with two circles and a triangle forming the eyes and nose. The mason who carved the stone made several mistakes. He spelt "interred" with a b on the end which was altered to a d, and he also ran out of room for the deceased's name, adding the final r of Christopher above the e!
I don't think this trip gets us any further, but I enjoyed myself, and Tasa and I had a pint of Landlord each outside The New Inn in the sunshine, so not a wasted journey! |
Phew! glad you found it interesting and enjoyed a pint at the pub too.
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Tasa
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| Geordie-exile wrote: |
A search on Google books revealed the following preview:
'A List of the Lodges Composing the Independent Order of Odd Fellows ...
by Independent Order of Odd Fellows Manchester Unity, Manchester Unity, Independent Order of Odd Fellows - 1876 - 311 pages
113 : 3030, Branch of Hope (1842); Crown and Fleece, Crown- street, ...
No preview available - About this book - Add to my library - More editions'
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I've located a copy of the book at Oxford University Library so I've just emailed them to ask if someone can find the full text of the bit about the Crown & Fleece and send it to me. No guarantee of a reply but worth a shot! |
OK, I've heard back from Oxford Uni - unfortunately their volume is a different year and at that time, the Branch of Hope was meeting in the Union Tavern on Meadow Lane. The librarian was kind enough to check the whole Leeds section, but found no mention of the Crown and Fleece. However, I've now emailed Harvard University as they digitised the 1876 edition mentioned above. I love technology!!
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